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MetaphysHunter

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So, with the announcement of new Nordic support, I was elated... until the effect was revealed. It's just so poorly made, not bad, mind you. Just dull. So I tried my hand at making, and since have art this time around, I think I'll submit them.

I do think they are a bit crazy in the plays can make, so I would recommend looking into that. Other concerns I have are PSCT, and if I overlooked something really stupid, and broken, which sounds a lot something I'd do, so look out for that.

Other than that, I'd like to see these get in.

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in eternal prosperity and every man and woman loves one another as themselves
never is there depression, anxiety, or confusion
and I imagine us attacking that world
because they'd never see it coming
 

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Yeah, you should definitely think about toning the effects down a lot. I'm not going to give an in depth look at your support because Im not QC (Not even gonna say anything about that right now) Balder is way OP given that it will literally easily be summoned by any monsters and a tuner and will almost always summon 5 monster and will also summon 4000 beatsticks along with the material needed for the easy synchro summon on your opponent's turn. It also shouldnt SS itself back, but that is only the icing on the cake.
Here are some tips for that particular card, you should be able to tone down the rest(like the archetypal Soul Charge with no LP loss and "end of duel" effect that will always be fullfilled. Plz do something to their bad field spell too if you don't mind, I'd be willing to help since i'm ruler of legacy supp). So, it actually has a nice idea, and you should expand upon what it brings to the table. It allows that card to be played using another engine, but in order to continue you must still use many nordics. To capitalize on this, maybe you could prohibit Extra Deck summons from the turn instead or keep it like it but put another restriction on it (up to you). The second effect needs to reworked entirely because ya know #+4 . I'll let you think of a better way, should be easy(not making it so strong). Maybe you could restrict it to synchro summon using monsters this card points to instead depending on how you rework the other effects. just remove the last effect becuase it gives a link 3 back to the field. if you want recursion, make/use other cards. cards shouldn't have too many effects built on that card even if alllll of them are balanced the card won't be balanced it it has too many effects

Ex:
(balanced individually, but too many effects make it unbalanced): Pay 1000 LP and discard 1 card; activate 1 of the following effects:
* Draw 1 card and banish 1 card from your GY, face-down.
* Flip 1 monster on the field, face-down, and if you do, gain 2000 LP.
* Gain 2000 LP, and if you do, draw 1 card and banish 1 card from your GY, face-down.
During the end, if you summoned less than 3 monsters this turn, draw 1 card. While this card is in your GY, all monsters you control gain 100 ATK and DEF. You can banish this card from the GY, then target 1 card you control; banish that target, face-down and activate 1 of the following effects:
* Draw 1 card and gain 200 LP
* Flip 1 monster on the field face-down, then gain 200 LP, and if you do, banish 1 card from your GY, face-down.
You cannot activate this effects the same turn blah. 1 each effect per turn.
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MetaphysHunter

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Ok, but this was not what I asked, I knew they were balanced in their own archetype. Balder can summon a lot of monsters, yes, but that's dependant on your opponent's plus, and this effect only works on the opponent's turn. he brings himself back help aesthetically, and also to trigger Alviss, the new Alfar Konami made. You also gotta remember, that synchro summoning on the opponent's turn is only useful if that monster can disrupt, and the only who can is Freyja who can activate Gugnir from the deck, which isn't too useful. 

They also have Handtrap weakness due to only mind consistency (ex. SS Ratatoskr, eff. discard. Ash Blossom Negate. Scoop from there). It's also fair to say they can scoop if you're not careful. Gullveig is a good example, by investing and getting disrupted being almost game for you. 

My question was, to rephrase myself, "What can they do, out of archetype". Also, I'm not trying them balanced for the RL game. This me, trying to make so truly good support that elevates the deck to a fairly high tier, not have it be "good". I think there's a stigma around making support to make things good. I don't personally like "1 card fix all our problems" which is why I didn't go that route. This is my attempt at making Nordics not only playable but relevant. But I want one answer from my question, and I'll use the five grade scale right here
Consistency : 3/5
Power : 4/5
Protection : 4/5
Recovery : 4/5
Versatility : ?/?
I am deeply sorry for the confusion, but I have no interest in submitting support no one will consider, if I wanted this to be borderline on playable, I'd have kept it in the card creation channels. But, if I could get an actual BT in, that'd be nice. 

Final Remarks: I want it to balanced, but I also want it to be playable in the reckless meta of KoishiPro. And I've already made it clear how I think of the support, consistent, but not consistent enough. Powerful, but not enough removal to give it a 5/5. Protection is good, but not towers level. And Recovery is also good, but they can still be taken down fairly easily. I don't about versatility, because KoishiPro is such wildcard that you never know until it's in, or reviewed by BT.
sometimes, I imagine a world
without hate, without anger, without war, and peace reigns everywhere
in eternal prosperity and every man and woman loves one another as themselves
never is there depression, anxiety, or confusion
and I imagine us attacking that world
because they'd never see it coming
 

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I'm sorry to tell you this, but there's already a Freyja (Vanadis).
 

MetaphysHunter

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Yeah, I figured that out eventually, but at this point, it's far too late, because if you can find a god with actual art for it, go ahead and just hand me that and I'll change it. But what I want is Balance comments, because, quite honestly, I could care less for this type of nitpicking. 
sometimes, I imagine a world
without hate, without anger, without war, and peace reigns everywhere
in eternal prosperity and every man and woman loves one another as themselves
never is there depression, anxiety, or confusion
and I imagine us attacking that world
because they'd never see it coming